Welcome to It's Not What You Think

We’re back with Season 4 of It’s Not What You Think! In this episode, Penny and Angie talk to comedian and radio host, Henry Bretz about his experience with OCD. You might know Henry for going viral for his satirical videos pretending to be Karl Stefanovic (OCD makes him soooo angry). We dive into:

For the last episode of season 3, Penny and Ange are joined by Alison Cosker. Together they discuss:

There is a real buzz surrounding a treatment method originating in Norway. Clinical Psychologist and Founder of Melbourne Mindcare, Nathan Dowling joins Penny and Angie to talk about this intensive but gentle method, which is now being piloted in Australia. They discuss:

Paediatrician Dr Leila Masson joins Penny and Angie to talk about PANS/PANDAS, a medical condition in which the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks brain cells and can lead to sudden, severe symptoms of OCD. Doctors often mistake PANS/PANDAS for other conditions and it can be extremely difficult for parents to get a diagnosis for their kids. Dr Masson, a medical doctor who also specialises in environmental and nutritional health discusses: - Why kids get PANS/PANDAS - what the signs and symptoms are - how it is diagnosed - why it can be so hard to receive a diagnosis - how it can be treated - how to look after your kids’ immune systems to try to avoid conditions like PANS/PANDAS

A few years ago, Jo’s OCD was so crippling that she needed to be hospitalised and completed two stints at The Melbourne Clinic. OCD had completely taken over her life in every way. Jo joins Penny and Angie for a beautiful conversation about what she found the most helpful in her recovery and how she ended up turning her pain into a way to help so many others, through her counselling practice called Living Proof Therapy.