EP19: Cal Mather & Dany Carline | Our First Return Guest & a Special Guest

This week I am Hanging with Cal Mather & Dany Carline.

Fan favourite Cal is our first return guest on the show, excited to bring him back BUT ...he aint alone. Dany Carline, Cals fiancé, joins us and brings a great perspective to the convo. We wanted this to be more discussion than question and answer. Excited to bring you it. If you are enjoying the show, please rate or give it a share

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CHAPTERS 00:00 – 2:36 — Cold open: cats sped up, banned Spotify playlists, and podcast ground rules ("no babies in the box") 2:36 – 6:04 — Intro: welcome to The Hangout, meet Cal, Danny & Tom (aka "DTC") 6:04 – 7:10 — Engagement announcement & setting up the episode's theme: relationships and climbing 7:10 – 17:03 — Does striving to improve as a climber make you a better person? 17:03 – 20:37 — Whose priorities win: compromising on trips (Nashville, Moab, the Cambodia/UK holiday) 20:37 – 23:07 — Climbing as identity: sponsorships, ambassadorships, and self-imposed pressure 23:07 – 25:23 — Filming for yourself vs. sharing online; Danny's shifting relationship with climbing 25:23 – 29:58 — Danny's origin story: from "supporting the boys" to falling in love with climbing (Font, Switzerland) 29:58 – 33:01 — Introducing other people to climbing; balancing solo vs. shared trips (New Zealand, Switzerland) 33:01 – 41:56 — Long distance and solo trips: Hayley's perspective, independence, and codependence 41:56 – 44:36 — The limits of long distance; the ten-day silent retreat story begins 44:36 – 53:11 — Pivoting to Development: Cal's history putting up new routes ( Edge of Tomorrow) 53:11 – 58:14 — Cal's "vision": how he scouts, evaluates, and finds new lines 58:14 – 1:03:06 — Developing Dead by Dawn (V14) and the strange sadness of finally sending it 1:03:06 – 1:05:07 — parallel journey: Pussy Power and the "Hate to Love" project 1:05:07 – 1:09:11 — "Should vs. can," and valuing process over grade (Tom's rope project tangent) 1:09:11 – 1:13:00 — Tangent: the silent retreat's "day six/day seven" pattern and "starting again" 1:13:00 – 1:15:18 — Opportunity cost, links, and why sharp climbs aren't worth it anymore 1:15:18 – 1:22:05 — Purity of line vs. accessibility when developing (Slippery Nipple, the Dead by Dawn stand debate) 1:22:05 – 1:26:24 — The ethics of stand starts and retroactive stands 1:26:24 – 1:29:53 — Retroactive stands continued: the Dream Time example 1:29:53 – 1:31:18 — Wrapping up and taking a break 1:31:18 – 1:33:24 — Outro and thank-yous 1:33:24 – 1:37:20 — Bonus post-show chat: partners, Pilates, and encouraging new climbers

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