Shubz Says So

122 | Winston, Abortion & the Backlash — James Christmas Responds

Shubz Says So

Show Notes

James Christmas isn’t backing away from his disagreement with Winston Peters.

The ACT candidate joins Shubz to explain why he challenged Winston’s language on abortion, respond to accusations that he’s “woke” and discuss where personal freedom fits within his politics. We also get into the Tāmaki campaign, strategic voting and the election ahead.

Then the conversation gets deeply personal.

Conservative Party leader Helen Houghton opens up about her experience of sexual abuse and why she decided to speak publicly. She and Shubz talk as survivors about silence, shame, trauma and why protecting children means having conversations people would rather avoid.

Helen also gives her views on abortion, questions whether Winston’s comments are political theatre and outlines her party’s proposals on child protection and sentencing.

Content note: This episode includes personal accounts and discussion of child sexual abuse.

CHAPTERS 0:00 Introduction and politics 5:17 James Christmas interview 9:25 Abortion policy debate 13:30 Political alignment and identity 17:07 Election strategy and debate 21:27 Strategic voting and performance 24:11 Electoral dynamics 28:36 Political philosophy and wrap-up 32:37 Advocacy and Conservative Party 37:12 Audience interaction and updates 44:52 Helen Houghton — abortion, politics and speaking publicly 50:40 Child protection, survivors and trauma 1:14:22 Lighthearted wrap-up

Shubz Says So | Episode 122

Subscribe, share it with the whānau and have your say in the comments.

For all inquiries: [email protected]

More from Shubz Says So

Oct 23, 2026

Isaac Nicholson spent the first 37 years of his life in Gloriavale. Then he and his wife decided their children deserved a different future.

Oct 23, 2026

Jimothy returns to give his take on the argument, share his experience working around an election and explain why he questions the push for last-minute enrolment. We also get into strategic voting, overhang seats and his predictions for who makes it into Parliament from the ACT and NZ First lists.

Oct 22, 2026

Why do we push university as the main path when plenty of young Kiwis would thrive in a trade?

Oct 20, 2026

Who benefits from New Zealand’s data centre boom — and who pays for the upgrades?

Oct 19, 2026

You don’t have to agree with Brian Tamaki to question the charges against him.

See all episodes →