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How This Real Estate Investor is Betting on an AI Boom (It’s Not Data Centers) | Tom Shapiro

Other People's Money with Max Wiethe

Show Notes

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In this episode of Other People's Money, GTIS Partners founder and CIO Tom Shapiro breaks down how massive macroeconomic shifts, including AI and inflation, are reshaping the global real estate landscape. He explains why his firm is heavily betting on a San Francisco recovery driven by the booming AI sector, and how they are scooping up properties at steep discounts to replacement costs. Shapiro also details the severe oversupply challenges currently stalling popular Sun Belt cities, alongside the firm's strategic push into industrial logistics to capitalize on domestic reshoring trends. Finally, he shares decades of expertise on navigating the complex Brazilian real estate market, offering a masterclass on global investment strategies in a high-interest-rate environment.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:30 Macro Shocks and Inflation

02:30 AI Disruption Risks

04:27 Tracking Jobs and Households

06:09 Immigration and Rate Politics

08:03 Build to Rent Bill Fallout

11:57 Affordability and Mortgage Rates

14:41 Fundrise Income Fund

16:36 Regional Winners and Losers

17:12 Sun Belt Oversupply Pain

19:57 San Francisco Comeback Thesis

24:35 AI Occupancy and Investment Plays

28:28 Picking Buildings Block by Block

30:02 Picking the Right Building

30:21 Safety and City Recovery

33:39 AI Jobs and Office Demand

35:17 Froth and Real Revenues

37:39 Data Centers NIMBY Debate

39:54 Reshoring and Warehouse Boom

44:09 Real Estate Capital Markets

49:07 Why Brazil Worked

52:46 Brazil Rates and Currency

55:15 Politics and China Pull

58:44 US Outlook and Wrap Up

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