Show Notes
Joe Hotai and I start off talking rugby, the Warriors and a bit of politics before getting into the announcement that my former boss George Ngatai had stepped down from New Zealand First. From there we talk about what happened at the radio station, how Shubz Says So ended up becoming podcast only, the politics behind it all, the receipts, unpaid work, media fallout and some of the things we saw behind the scenes. Neil Waka joins us and brings his perspective as someone who’s been around broadcasting for years. We talk radio, politics, Māori representation, accountability, the media industry and where things go from here. Then in the final hour our Shubz Says So producer Corina Shields joins us to tell her side of the story and speak on what happened behind the scenes.We also get into business practices, exploitation, integrity, truth in media, sport, personal accountability and plenty more along the way. A big conversation about closing one chapter and building the next one ourselves. 0:00 Rugby and rivalry discussion 1:47 The greatest rivalry 4:02 Warriors rugby league talk 6:35 Leaving Radio Waatea 9:22 Explaining the show's demise 11:58 Moving online and finding out 14:40 Political connections and candidates 17:59 Political maneuvering and receipts 22:54 Political ideologies and race 26:58 Critique of Maori political figures 29:17 Voting perspectives and engagement 32:25 Debating policy and accountability 35:12 Political party critique 40:20 George Ngatai's resignation 50:54 Extortion and media fallout 53:46 Labor and payment issues 57:30 Governance and corruption concerns 1:02:00 Business practices and exploitation 1:08:40 Political factionalism 1:18:00 Reflecting on truth and media 1:24:10 Personal growth and accountability 1:30:40 Neil's background and early days 1:40:10 Radio industry and experiences 1:45:40 Motorcycling and NZ scenery 1:51:20 Management and looking after people 1:58:20 Communication and fallout 2:01:40 Integrity in business and media 2:13:20 Moving forward and future goals 2:21:40 Final thoughts and closing
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