S12 E6: We Regret to Inform You That This Episode Is About Firing People (with Jennifer Laurie)
I Hate It HereShow Notes
Nobody talks about their first termination the way they should, which is with a little bit of trauma, because we never forget the people we have to let go of.
In this latest episode of I Hate It Here, I sat down with Jennifer Laurie, fractional CPO and founder of Equitable HR Guild, to do exactly that!
We went all the way back to her very first termination…the nerves, the Googling "how to fire someone," the manager who was just as lost as she was, and then kept going.
We got into where managers go horribly wrong before they even get to the termination convo, how bias creeps into these decisions in ways that are really easy to miss, and why the debrief after is the part everyone skips but absolutely shouldn't.
Take a deep breath, and prepare yourself for this discussion!
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:51 - Something Jennifer Believed Early in Her Career That She Had to Unlearn
00:07:15 - What it Feels Like to Fire Somebody for the First Time
00:13:04 - Something Nobody Teaches You About Terminations
00:19:19 - Where Most Managers go Wrong in the Build-up to a Termination
00:24:17 - Addressing Bias in Termination Decisions
00:30:20 - Reflecting and Learning Done After a Termination
00:36:54 - Can Some Terminations Make Work Better for Everyone?
00:44:24 Advice for First-Time Termination Managers
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