The 2025 DORA Report w/special guest Fred Hebert
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You can find the 2025 DORA Report here: https://dora.dev/research/2025/dora-report/
Read more of Fred’s work/opinions here: https://ferd.ca/
If you want to know more about Lund’s Human Factors and Systems Safety program, you can read here: https://www.humanfactors.lth.se/
DORA has some good writeups of generative leadership and Westrum’s model here: https://dora.dev/capabilities/generative-organizational-culture/
We can reset the counter, it’s been 0 episodes since we mentioned Lorin’s Law: https://surfingcomplexity.blog/2017/06/24/a-conjecture-on-why-reliable-systems-fail/
Fred writes well about the Law of Stretched Systems: https://ferd.ca/the-law-of-stretched-cognitive-systems.html
We’re still trying to schedule a DORA event with our friends who make the report, but keep an eye out on https://resilienceinsoftware.org/events - it will pop up there when we do!
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WARNING: **Colette may have forgotten how to talk for a bit during this episode. We’ve tried to keep the edit streamlined, but cuts are because of the presence of so many “ums” and a migraine.
If you want to come to the event to chat with Layer Aleph folks about Crisis Engineering you can sign up here: https://resilienceinsoftware.org/events/272451
Chad’s thesis from Lund is here: https://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=9076274&fileOId=9076276
Aerobarrier is super cool if you want to check out how it works: https://glbipro.com/aerobarrier-2/
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